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W114 250 CE valve adjustment "ventile spiel messen"
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27 Jul 2025 12:53 #23633
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Hello everyone,
I'd like to share with you my first experience adjusting the valves on my W114 250 CE. I'll conclude with a few remaining questions.
After installing new spark plugs and driving a quarter tank of gas, I took a picture of the spark plugs (see photo). As you can see, cylinder 4 really stands out. I decided to check the valve clearance and readjust it. Hopefully, I'll know soon whether the spark plug in cylinder 4 is no longer fouling and whether the root cause was excessive intake valve clearance.
Make sure you have the correct socket wrench: the Hazet 2768-1 with a width of 17.05 mm, not the Chinese replicas with a width of 17.3 mm that easily slip off (see photo of socket wrenches). I was fortunate enough to quickly obtain an original Hazet through Kleinanzeigen. To minimize the amount of manual crankshaft rotation clockwise (660 degrees) required for adjusting the cylinder sequence 1-5-3-6-2-4, I found it helpful to make a paper ring around the distributor, marking it every 60 degrees to find the correct camshaft position (see top view of the distributor). You also need to remove the rocker arm springs from the intake valves to properly position the cap around the nut and create the correct rotational stroke. This isn't necessary for the exhaust valves; see the photo with the required valve clearance and a photo of the spring I had to remove.
Questions:
1) See the photo of the valve clearance measurements and look at cylinder 4. Could this explain the different colors of spark plug 4? (Once I've used a quarter tank of gas, I'll take more photos and upload them. For now, I've cleaned spark plug 4 and swapped it with cylinder 3.)
2) See the photo of the cross-section of the rocker arm. How does the combination of "kugelbolzen" and "gewindebolzen" prevent the adjustment from slipping/moving? I understand that the adjustment torque must be at least 20-35 Nm. In my case, it was much higher. I see that the "kugelbolzen" have external threads at two places, and I think the "gewindebolzen" have the same internal thread along their entire length. However, how does the construction ensure this doesn't move any more? Differential threads or slightly oval thread shapes?
I look forward to your feedback.
Regards, Marc
I'd like to share with you my first experience adjusting the valves on my W114 250 CE. I'll conclude with a few remaining questions.
After installing new spark plugs and driving a quarter tank of gas, I took a picture of the spark plugs (see photo). As you can see, cylinder 4 really stands out. I decided to check the valve clearance and readjust it. Hopefully, I'll know soon whether the spark plug in cylinder 4 is no longer fouling and whether the root cause was excessive intake valve clearance.
Make sure you have the correct socket wrench: the Hazet 2768-1 with a width of 17.05 mm, not the Chinese replicas with a width of 17.3 mm that easily slip off (see photo of socket wrenches). I was fortunate enough to quickly obtain an original Hazet through Kleinanzeigen. To minimize the amount of manual crankshaft rotation clockwise (660 degrees) required for adjusting the cylinder sequence 1-5-3-6-2-4, I found it helpful to make a paper ring around the distributor, marking it every 60 degrees to find the correct camshaft position (see top view of the distributor). You also need to remove the rocker arm springs from the intake valves to properly position the cap around the nut and create the correct rotational stroke. This isn't necessary for the exhaust valves; see the photo with the required valve clearance and a photo of the spring I had to remove.
Questions:
1) See the photo of the valve clearance measurements and look at cylinder 4. Could this explain the different colors of spark plug 4? (Once I've used a quarter tank of gas, I'll take more photos and upload them. For now, I've cleaned spark plug 4 and swapped it with cylinder 3.)
2) See the photo of the cross-section of the rocker arm. How does the combination of "kugelbolzen" and "gewindebolzen" prevent the adjustment from slipping/moving? I understand that the adjustment torque must be at least 20-35 Nm. In my case, it was much higher. I see that the "kugelbolzen" have external threads at two places, and I think the "gewindebolzen" have the same internal thread along their entire length. However, how does the construction ensure this doesn't move any more? Differential threads or slightly oval thread shapes?
I look forward to your feedback.
Regards, Marc
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29 Jul 2025 21:21 #23683
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Hello everyone,
Unfortunately, the problem persists. Adjusting the valves didn't really help with the discoloration/fouling of the spark plug in cylinder 4.
The spark plug from cylinder 3, which I had installed in cylinder 4, now looks exactly the same as my previous spark plug in cylinder 4.
But I'm not giving up hope yet. I suspect a leaky injector. I went into the cylinder with a camera and turned the crankshaft so that the intake valve for cylinder 4 was open. I saw a drop of fluid hanging from the bottom of the valve. I had previously turned the ignition from zero to 1 a few times to hear the fuel pump and build up pressure in my fuel line.
Now I'm looking for a better green injector.
Have a nice evening.
Regards, Marc
Unfortunately, the problem persists. Adjusting the valves didn't really help with the discoloration/fouling of the spark plug in cylinder 4.
The spark plug from cylinder 3, which I had installed in cylinder 4, now looks exactly the same as my previous spark plug in cylinder 4.
But I'm not giving up hope yet. I suspect a leaky injector. I went into the cylinder with a camera and turned the crankshaft so that the intake valve for cylinder 4 was open. I saw a drop of fluid hanging from the bottom of the valve. I had previously turned the ignition from zero to 1 a few times to hear the fuel pump and build up pressure in my fuel line.
Now I'm looking for a better green injector.
Have a nice evening.
Regards, Marc
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16 Aug 2025 17:03 #23816
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Hello everyone,
I found a green injector. I had it cleaned and tested for flow and spray angle. It was then installed in cylinder number 4. Unfortunately, the problem persists. However, I noticed during valve adjustment that my camshaft is lagging about 5 degrees relative to the crankshaft.
1) I think I have two options: use a special offset key or a new chain? What do you recommend?
Attached is a detail of the crankshaft misalignment.
p.s. The injector from the car turned out not to be leaking but to provide 30% more flow.
Regards, Marc
I found a green injector. I had it cleaned and tested for flow and spray angle. It was then installed in cylinder number 4. Unfortunately, the problem persists. However, I noticed during valve adjustment that my camshaft is lagging about 5 degrees relative to the crankshaft.
1) I think I have two options: use a special offset key or a new chain? What do you recommend?
Attached is a detail of the crankshaft misalignment.
p.s. The injector from the car turned out not to be leaking but to provide 30% more flow.
Regards, Marc
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