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Die Bosch D-Jetronic war 1967 die erste Großserien elektronische Einspritzung der Welt. - Bosch's D-Jetronic was the first mass-production electronic fuel injection.

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7 years 5 months ago #8418 by Dr-DJet
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Hi David,

I am currently on Retroclassics fare in Nürnberg. So just a short reply: You can measure vacuum on the line to MAP sensor via a T-piece. You can also measure vacuum leakage of your MAP sensor according to video in chapter 4 of my D-Jetronic compendium.

Viele Schraubergrüße - best regards, Dr-DJet Volker
Alles für den Mercedes-Benz R/C 107 und W116 in der SLpedia Sternzeit 107
Workshops Heizung/Klima 10.5.(HU), D-Jetronic 28.6.(F),20.9.(ER), K-Jetronic 31.5.(ER),23.8.(F)

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7 years 4 months ago #8534 by w116 350 SE
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Hi Volker and all, happy new year!
Volker, i have measured my MAP-sensor.
I have aprox 92 OHM and 319 OHM on the coils. The ground isn´t present, so far so good.
But, i can hardly pull 0.5 bar and it fall to 0.45 bar in 2 - 3 seconds. So it it is far from ok, i think i have a leakage in the MAP-sensor. What do you think? When i put my finger direct to the pump, it is easy to pull vacum, the pump is ok then.
The number, put on the sensor is: 0 280 100 012.
What do you think? Can it be repaired or exchanged?

Regards David

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7 years 4 months ago #8535 by Dr-DJet
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Hi David,

the typical failure of this MAP sensor. It is a broken diaphragm and can be repaired by replacing diaphragm , retuning and resealing it.

Viele Schraubergrüße - best regards, Dr-DJet Volker
Alles für den Mercedes-Benz R/C 107 und W116 in der SLpedia Sternzeit 107
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7 years 4 months ago #8536 by w116 350 SE
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Hi Volker
Even that I said that the pump was ok, I thought that I might try it once more, late yesterday.
Suddenly, I can pull vacuum with my finger, put against the pump, but the needle drops. The pump is brand new but obviously, not ok any more. I cannot in any case make the needle stay. I did manage to do that some days before. Must be an inner leakage in the pump. I cannot trust it.

So, I have to arrange for another pump and try again.
But still, if it is a broken diaphragm in the end, can you replace the diaphragm, retune and reseal it.
And if, what does it cost?

Thanks and regards
David

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7 years 4 months ago #8537 by nordfisch
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Hi David,
open the pump and apply some silicone grease to the cylinder.
That will work and is less work than to bring the pump back.

Regards
Norbert

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7 years 4 months ago #8538 by w116 350 SE
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Thanks Nobert!
But i have already sent it back, i´m afraid.
I think that i have the time, it still winter for some weeks :)
But next time, if there is still problems i will do that.
Thanks and regards
David

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