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Die Bosch D-Jetronic war 1967 die erste Großserien elektronische Einspritzung der Welt. - Bosch's D-Jetronic was the first mass-production electronic fuel injection.

1973 MB 450SL Throttle Switch- Should Injectors Fire?

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5 years 6 months ago #12622 by Dr-DJet
Hi Kevin,

inches for me is a length measurement, not a pressure unit...

But if MAP sensor is not leaking vacuum then a bad engine vacuum has nothing to do with D-Jetronic. In such cases there are 2 things to do. Insert smoke to test whether it evaporates somewhere. And use a pressure loss detector to verify that piston rings and valves are tight.

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5 years 6 months ago #12623 by 1025MB
Thank you again for the response. Does anyone on the forum have access to a vacuum diagram for a 1973 Mercedes 450 SL? At the very least, I am interested disconnecting/plugging all vacuum lines not essential to running the engine (i.e. is central door locking, HVAC, etc.) I have the benefit of one dodgy diagram that I will attach. In the diagram to the immediate right of number three appears to be a singular connection to the manifold, presumably the origin of the vacuum for a number of features.Basically, I would like to remove the area between the firewall and the license plate from the equation.

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5 years 6 months ago #12624 by Dr-DJet
Hi Kevin,

check 107 SL Workshop manual above to verify heating, air condition and central locking chapters. They all contain vacuum diagrams.

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5 years 6 months ago - 5 years 6 months ago #12625 by nordfisch

1025MB wrote: ... As I turn the crank/distributor, each of the four triggerpoints appears to stay closed for roughly 100 to 110°....


Hi Kevin,
the triggerpoints are misadjusted.
They have to stay closed <and open, too> by around [strike]180°.[/strike] 140°

Unfortunately there exists a youtube-video showing the adjustment to 110°.

Use my tool and you can adjust them correctly without using any angle measurement.
trigger-tool-thread

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Last edit: 5 years 6 months ago by nordfisch. Reason: corrected value

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5 years 6 months ago #12626 by Dr-DJet
Hi Norbert,

sorry to correct. but 180° dwell for trigger points is too much as well as 110° is too little. When I replace cams and adjustthem with 0,5mm gap with my alignment gauge, I see 140-150° of dwell on my ignition distributor. 110° dwell means that T.C. are not in mid and will over time come to 140°.

However, it will not be Kevin's problem. Dwell is not an important issue on T.C. as long as it is not too far away.

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5 years 6 months ago - 5 years 6 months ago #12627 by nordfisch
Hi Volker,
Kevin didn't write anything about a 'dwell'.
He wrote about the closing angle.

This is exactly what the youtube guy does: He measures the angle using an angle-meter-disk.

Look at the reading of your oscilloscope: opening time and closing time of the points are same lenght or almost the same lenght - how can the angle differ than?

A closing angle of 140° would mean an opening angle of 220°, and the oscilloscope readings wouldn't look almost same lenght.

Which way do you measure the dwell?

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