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Die Bosch D-Jetronic war 1967 die erste Großserien elektronische Einspritzung der Welt. - Bosch's D-Jetronic was the first mass-production electronic fuel injection.

Slight mis-fire at partial throttle...until I disconnect air temperature sensor

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1 year 1 month ago #21325 by Dr-DJet
Hi,

resistance does not change over vacuum. It is always the same. Transformation of input signals from ECU changes. That is why it is also called VLT - variable linear transformer.

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1 year 1 month ago - 1 year 1 month ago #21327 by RussellWithABenz
Understood that the vacuum has no effect on the sensor. The testing I did was in different temperature water and I saw the resistance change. I matched that with a chart (that I likely found here :) ) and it seemed within reasonable spec.

The popping when I re-connect seems to be throughout the throttle, not just when slightly opened. It also seems to idle a bit more roughly. All of that goes away when I disconnect the incoming air temperature sensor on the air filter intake.
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1 year 1 month ago #21328 by Dr-DJet
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that means you engine runs slightly too lean. Sensor removal increases mixture on warm engine by 10-20% . That is of course not a real solution. You need to find out what is wrong. Exhaust gas measurement per cyl might give a good hint.

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1 year 1 week ago #21524 by Samuel
I have the same problem with my Citroen DS 23 IE.
Exhaust CO is 2.8% with the air temperature sensor disconnected.

Fuel pressure is 30 PSI with engine running. With ignition only on, the highest fuel pressure is 22 PSI, even after a few on/off ignition cycles. The fuel pump is original to the car (51 years old).

I did turn the knob on the ECU 6 clicks clockwise, but that didn't make a difference.

Could it be a fuel volume issue?

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1 year 1 week ago #21525 by Samuel
As a follow up question...

Is the only systematic way to enrich the fuel mixture by turning the knob on the CEU clockwise?

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1 year 1 week ago #21526 by Dr-DJet
Hi,

I do not consider turning rheostat on ECU by 6 clicks a systematic approach. Please remember that it only affects idle-run CO, nothing else.

It is mainly ECU and MAP sensor that really affect mixture. But they need sensors to reply correctly and they need a vacuum tight manifold, working injectors ...

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