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24 May 2026 14:51 #24830
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I’m gonna follow whoever has the best information and who ever is right based on Mercedes standard. I’m gonna follow people like you who know these engines
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25 May 2026 16:34 #24834
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Hi Josh,
I’m not a slave of the factory CO specification - especially not as mine is a US version - as I believe they were set too lean to accommodate silly emissions regulations. In Denmark, cars from the early ‘70’s are allowed up to 5,5%, but I’ve found mine to be happiest around 3-3,5%.
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I’m not a slave of the factory CO specification - especially not as mine is a US version - as I believe they were set too lean to accommodate silly emissions regulations. In Denmark, cars from the early ‘70’s are allowed up to 5,5%, but I’ve found mine to be happiest around 3-3,5%.
best, Peter
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26 May 2026 01:16 - 26 May 2026 01:16 #24838
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26 May 2026 08:05 #24841
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Hi Josh,
In all other aspects I completely agree that the factory specs should be observed. But when it comes to idle behaviour I'm not religious. Because of strange motives, the Americans introduced quite strict emission regulations that forced car manufacturers to practically strangulate their engines (in idle) which therefore made them run less optimal (in idle). Once you touch the throttle, the idle CO reading is obsolete anyway and you are in the hands of the D-jetronic components. There is nothing wrong in observing the factory specs - by no means. I'm just in the camp that if you loved one wants more to eat in idle to be happy (i.e. a richer mixture), then I'll be happy to provide for that, while still observing today's emissions limits.
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In all other aspects I completely agree that the factory specs should be observed. But when it comes to idle behaviour I'm not religious. Because of strange motives, the Americans introduced quite strict emission regulations that forced car manufacturers to practically strangulate their engines (in idle) which therefore made them run less optimal (in idle). Once you touch the throttle, the idle CO reading is obsolete anyway and you are in the hands of the D-jetronic components. There is nothing wrong in observing the factory specs - by no means. I'm just in the camp that if you loved one wants more to eat in idle to be happy (i.e. a richer mixture), then I'll be happy to provide for that, while still observing today's emissions limits.
Best, Peter
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26 May 2026 12:58 - 26 May 2026 12:58 #24845
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Hey there Peter,
Yes I understand completely about the emissions laws and stuff. Quite crazy in California too. Thankfully mine isn’t a California car.
But all of which you said makes perfect sense. I think last I got mine tested with the tail pipe test the readings were around 2-3%?
Josh
Yes I understand completely about the emissions laws and stuff. Quite crazy in California too. Thankfully mine isn’t a California car.
But all of which you said makes perfect sense. I think last I got mine tested with the tail pipe test the readings were around 2-3%?
Josh
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28 May 2026 17:47 - 28 May 2026 18:34 #24864
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Morning,
just wanted to post an update on the timing. Setting it to 20 degrees @3000 w/vacuum connected. I can already feel a difference in the idle. It’s much smoother. It’s more around 21-23degrees
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just wanted to post an update on the timing. Setting it to 20 degrees @3000 w/vacuum connected. I can already feel a difference in the idle. It’s much smoother. It’s more around 21-23degrees
Josh
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