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Die Bosch D-Jetronic war 1967 die erste Großserien elektronische Einspritzung der Welt. - Bosch's D-Jetronic was the first mass-production electronic fuel injection.

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28 Jan 2023 20:33 #18926 by kf
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hi dr.volker 
How are you? 

hi dr.volker,
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We haven't seen each other for a long time. How are the Kunefe parties going. Greetings to Selim.
There is an HC value during the measurement of the carbon value from the exhaust. What value should this normally be?
w114 280E
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28 Jan 2023 23:48 #18927 by Dr-DJet
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Hi,

in pre-catalytic cars one would expect CO % times 100 ppm as HC. So 2% CO and 200 ppm HC roughly.

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29 Jan 2023 13:20 #18928 by kf
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Thanks dr. volker .
I still haven't been able to adjust the throttle switch (DKS).I'll deal with it this week.
When setting 12/47/17;
Firstly;
The vehicle will be in the ignition on position.
I will remove the throttle switch socket.
I will do the setting later. This order is correct ?
would you confirm?
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30 Jan 2023 12:31 #18929 by Dr-DJet
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Hi Unknown,

no need to switch on ignition. When you keep ignition on for long, it will grill your ignition coil and power resistors and ignition module.

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30 Jan 2023 16:16 - 30 Jan 2023 16:37 #18930 by kf
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Thank you for your answer. Another question;
I read your answer to another question on the forum about the Map sensor.
You said that the map sensor vacuum clock should be - 0.5 bar while the car was idling at idle. I measured with the clock. It increased to -0.3 bar when the vehicle was cold, and -0,4.5 bar after warming up. Is this normal? Does it pose a problem? Or should I increase the amount of air from the intake manifold adjustment screw to -0.5 bar?
vacuum pictures are in the attachment.
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30 Jan 2023 16:38 #18931 by kf
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Greetings from Hatay Turkey
kerim falay

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30 Jan 2023 17:10 #18932 by Dr-DJet
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Merhaba Kerim,

-0.45 Bar is a bit low for an engine in idle. It should be -0,5 or more.

During warm up, AAV adds more air and is a bypass to throttle. That is why a lower vaccuum is correct then.

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30 Jan 2023 18:05 #18933 by kf
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ok thanks dear dr volker
What do you suggest I do?

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30 Jan 2023 18:10 #18934 by Dr-DJet
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Hi,

just use a disco fogging macheine and press smoke in manifold to see where it leaks.

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30 Jan 2023 18:19 #18935 by kf
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ok thanks dr volker.
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31 Jan 2023 15:18 #18938 by kf
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hallo dr. volker,

I tried again today at idle to measure the minus pressure of the map sensor. The result is again ( -0.45 bar). Then I increased the air intake from the idle air adjustment screw under the intake manifold. In this way, when the air intake increased, the map sensor pressure became (-0.5 bar). Is this a correct action? Should it stay this way?
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31 Jan 2023 15:41 #18939 by Dr-DJet
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Merhaba Kerim,

everything starts with correct ignition dwell and timing plus idle rpm. Then you can measure. Increased idle speed will decrease vacuum.

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31 Jan 2023 15:49 #18940 by kf
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thanks for answer.
I understood that ;
If I turn the idle air setting down a bit, will the vacuum increase?
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