Die Bosch D-Jetronic war 1967 die erste Großserien elektronische Einspritzung der Welt. - Bosch's D-Jetronic was the first mass-production electronic fuel injection.

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08 Sep 2020 10:14 #14651 by nordfisch
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Oh, no!:cry: - they are the wrong type.:evil:
Not meant for use in D-Jetronic-systems.

You have to replace them.:YES:

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08 Sep 2020 11:52 - 08 Sep 2020 11:54 #14654 by Erikkraft
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Hi Norbert,

Is there a overview of type injector for D-tronic.

I found several on ebay, but all different types.

Or do you know a place where i can purchase them.

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Erik
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08 Sep 2020 12:04 #14655 by nordfisch
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I now checked it more excactly:
Besides the wrong impedance the flow rate is much lower:

Original: (BOSCH 280 150 019 or similar) 318 ccm/min
Replacement (BOSCH 0 280 150 114): 185 ccm/min.

As I said before, you have to find replacements.
And don't believe the suppliers that sell American or Chinese products instead. They don't fit.
We don't know a perfect replacement besides Bosch.

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Norbert
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08 Sep 2020 12:23 #14656 by Michi68
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Hallo Norbert,
ich kenn mich jetzt nicht mehr aus. Erik schreibt ja über den Fotos, dass das die sind die er ersetzt hat. Also wie jetzt? Sind die drin oder andere?
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08 Sep 2020 13:37 #14657 by nordfisch
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Michi68 wrote: Hallo Norbert,
ich kenn mich jetzt nicht mehr aus. Erik schreibt ja über den Fotos, dass das die sind die er ersetzt hat. Also wie jetzt? Sind die drin oder andere?
Gruß
Michi

Hallo Michi,
ich verstehe das so, dass diese (Endnummer 114) verbaut sind. Die sind jedenfalls total falsch.

Gruß
Norbert

Here is a link to a posting I listed the fitting green D-Jet-injectors in: jetronic.org/de/forum/jetronic/1265-schubabschaltung#11802

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Norbert
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08 Sep 2020 13:47 #14658 by Michi68
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Hallo Norbert,
ich habe das auch recherchiert. Die gehören auf keinen Fall hinein. Aber, "This are the of injectors i replaced." übersetze ich mit: "das sind die Ventile die ich ersetzt habe." Deswegen kenne ich mich nicht aus.
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08 Sep 2020 13:53 #14659 by nordfisch
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Hallo Michi,
Erik ist sicher wie wir auch kein 'native speaker'.

Deshalb ist es doch wohl in jedem Fall wichti, ihm zu scfhreiben, dass die ....114-Düsen vollkommen falsch sind.

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08 Sep 2020 14:08 #14660 by Michi68
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Hallo Norbert,
da hast du natürlich recht. Also fragen wir ihn halt.

Hi Erik,
please enlighten us. Are the injectors in the photos the ones that are currently installed? Or did you replace them with others? And if so, by which ones?
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08 Sep 2020 14:31 #14661 by Erikkraft
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Hello Norbert and Michi,

Then this should be de right injectors.

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One problem, one of the four is sweating gas by the green cap.

Can this been rebuild or do you know any one selling these injectors.

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08 Sep 2020 14:50 #14662 by Michi68
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Hi Erik,
the hoses should definitely be exchanged. If one is leaking, it will not be able to be repaired. I know that from my own expirience. I had mine overtaken at the Elferwelt. I can only recommend. Can you google I found an outdated one at mengenteiler.eu. But the price makes my heart flicker. Maybe someone can help in the forum. The injectors with ... 114 do not work at all.
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08 Sep 2020 15:56 #14663 by nordfisch
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Erikkraft wrote: Hello Norbert and Michi,

Then this should be de right injectors.


Yes, absolute correct. But the hosese are brittle and of bad quality. Use hoses with a knee for a replacement. Available at Mercedes-Benz.


One problem, one of the four is sweating gas by the green cap.

Can this been rebuild or do you know any one selling these injectors.
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No, not rebuildable at this time.

But it will be possible to find one injector as a replacement.

I think, I have some used ones <and NOS ones>

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08 Sep 2020 16:43 #14664 by Erikkraft
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Hello Norbert and Michi,

It is clear to me that the injectors i have placed in our 914 are totally the wrong types for this engine.:Bang:

Thank you very much for helping me out.

I allready have three good 0 280 150 019 injectors, now i am out on a hunt for the fourth one.

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08 Sep 2020 17:15 #14665 by Marc_Voss
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Of course, not even cheap, but one available:
Injector at eBay

Good luck,
Marc
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08 Sep 2020 19:18 #14669 by Dr-DJet
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Hi,

sorry I saw the Porsche 914 in profile and the 1.7 at the end, which was for the VW. Yes 2.0 engines have green injectors.
Viele Schraubergrüße - best regards, Dr-DJet Volker
Alles für den Mercedes-Benz R/C 107 und W116 in der SLpedia Sternzeit 107

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08 Sep 2020 20:16 #14671 by Michi68
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Hi Erik,
what Marc found there sounds pretty reasonable. In any case, I would advise you to have the injectors overhauled. The Elferwelt does that for little money. You will then get them back with new hoses and seals.
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