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Mercedes Benz 280CE 1974mod M110 Bosch D-Jetronic
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4 years 8 months ago #14404
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Hi,
I try to fix a Mercedes Benz 280ce 1974mod with M110 engine and Bosch D-Jetronic that not run so good, I try to go true everything to see if I can find the problem.
Now i have come to the ignition system, is here someone that know what ignition timing, dwell, ignition breaker gap and sparkplug gap that it shall be on this engine? It have transistor ignition.
I now use ngk bp6es with 0,8mm gap, ignition timing 10° btdc with vacuum disconected, dwell 32° on idle with 0,3mm gap on ignition breaker, but i dont know if this is correct?
Mvh. Knut Åge
I try to fix a Mercedes Benz 280ce 1974mod with M110 engine and Bosch D-Jetronic that not run so good, I try to go true everything to see if I can find the problem.
Now i have come to the ignition system, is here someone that know what ignition timing, dwell, ignition breaker gap and sparkplug gap that it shall be on this engine? It have transistor ignition.
I now use ngk bp6es with 0,8mm gap, ignition timing 10° btdc with vacuum disconected, dwell 32° on idle with 0,3mm gap on ignition breaker, but i dont know if this is correct?
Mvh. Knut Åge
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4 years 8 months ago #14405
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Alles für den Mercedes-Benz R/C 107 und W116 in der SLpedia Sternzeit 107
Workshops Heizung/Klima 10.5.(HU), D-Jetronic 28.6.(F),20.9.(ER), K-Jetronic 31.5.(ER),23.8.(F)
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Replied by Dr-DJet on topic Mercedes Benz 280CE 1974mod M110 Bosch D-Jetronic
Hi Knut Åge,
[strike]you will find ignition timing for you engine above in 107 workshop manual as it is the same engine M110.[/strike] Sorry, I forgot that M110 D-Jetronic is not there.
Okay here is the data for M110 Europe version:
[strike]you will find ignition timing for you engine above in 107 workshop manual as it is the same engine M110.[/strike] Sorry, I forgot that M110 D-Jetronic is not there.
Okay here is the data for M110 Europe version:
- Dwell 34-40° in idle, not changing more than 3° in other rpm
- idle-run with vacuum: TDC +/- 2°
- 1500/min without vacuum: 14 - 19°
- 3000/min without vacuum: 32°
- vaccum retard in idle-run: 8-12°
Viele Schraubergrüße - best regards, Dr-DJet Volker
Alles für den Mercedes-Benz R/C 107 und W116 in der SLpedia Sternzeit 107
Workshops Heizung/Klima 10.5.(HU), D-Jetronic 28.6.(F),20.9.(ER), K-Jetronic 31.5.(ER),23.8.(F)
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4 years 8 months ago #14406
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Thank you, you know what can be wrong if dwell angel going down more than 3° on higher rpm? This going down to ca. 25° on higher rpm.
And you know the spark plug gap? Is 0,8mm ok?
Mvh. Knut Åge
And you know the spark plug gap? Is 0,8mm ok?
Mvh. Knut Åge
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4 years 8 months ago #14407
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Viele Schraubergrüße - best regards, Dr-DJet Volker
Alles für den Mercedes-Benz R/C 107 und W116 in der SLpedia Sternzeit 107
Workshops Heizung/Klima 10.5.(HU), D-Jetronic 28.6.(F),20.9.(ER), K-Jetronic 31.5.(ER),23.8.(F)
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Replied by Dr-DJet on topic Mercedes Benz 280CE 1974mod M110 Bosch D-Jetronic
Hi,
sounds like your bushings are worn and shaft dances a bit or the spring that closes contact is worn out. I always use 0.7 mm gap an my car's spark plugs.
sounds like your bushings are worn and shaft dances a bit or the spring that closes contact is worn out. I always use 0.7 mm gap an my car's spark plugs.
Viele Schraubergrüße - best regards, Dr-DJet Volker
Alles für den Mercedes-Benz R/C 107 und W116 in der SLpedia Sternzeit 107
Workshops Heizung/Klima 10.5.(HU), D-Jetronic 28.6.(F),20.9.(ER), K-Jetronic 31.5.(ER),23.8.(F)
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4 years 8 months ago #14408
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Replied by nordfisch on topic Mercedes Benz 280CE 1974mod M110 Bosch D-Jetronic
Hi Knut,
try to adjust the points to the correct value first and clean (polish) the contact plates of the points.
Dirty contacts can lead to changes in the dwell values, too.
Just to make sure the bushings are really worn.
Regards
Norbert
try to adjust the points to the correct value first and clean (polish) the contact plates of the points.
Dirty contacts can lead to changes in the dwell values, too.
Just to make sure the bushings are really worn.
Regards
Norbert
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4 years 8 months ago #14433
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Replied by Drdyse on topic Mercedes Benz 280CE 1974mod M110 Bosch D-Jetronic
Hi,
Have now checked more and see that the shaft in the distributer can move litle and I dont know if trancistor ignition box is in good condition, so we now order a new 123 ignition distributer and New red Bosch coil and see if things will be better. I have good experience with 123 ignition distributer on Volvo 164E with D-Jetronic.
Thank you both for help
Mvh. Knut Åge
Have now checked more and see that the shaft in the distributer can move litle and I dont know if trancistor ignition box is in good condition, so we now order a new 123 ignition distributer and New red Bosch coil and see if things will be better. I have good experience with 123 ignition distributer on Volvo 164E with D-Jetronic.
Thank you both for help

Mvh. Knut Åge
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